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    Post by Michael W Wright on Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:04 am

    As I'm sure you all know, there's a bunch of guys calling themselves Islam4UK, who intend to wander through the Oxfordshire town of Wootton Bassett carrying empty coffins and burning Union Jacks, in order to express their disgust at the "murderers" who have fallen from the UK Armed Forces in the line of duty.

    I don't know about you, but I've always fancied a visit to Oxfordshire, and a nice stroll through a country town could be a very rewarding experience. Who knows who we might bump into along the way.

    I'll be there. If you fancy it, drop me a line.

    Thanks

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    Post by moldeeside on Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:18 am

    I couldn`t believe this when I heard about it, I`m no racist and will happily get along with anybody but at some point this government will have to do something about the ever growing number of loonies who don`t like us or our country.

    I don`t like the sound of living in Mount Etna, so I don`t go there, Dead simple.

    I sometimes wonder if its all part of some huge plan to cause a civil war.

    Its been said before but if you popped over to Iraq say and marched round demanding a catholic church on every corner and said how much you hated iraquis and their generous benefit system, it wouldn`t be long before you were in small pieces and being eaten by local dogs.

    Join in, obey our laws, honour our forces, or bugger off.

    Whether you agree with the war or not, hundreds of our countrymen and women have died in the service of what they believe in and it thoroughly takes the piss for this lot to say they want to march through where the funeral corteges pass.

    Grrr. Unfairness and bullies. My two pet hates.
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    Post by Griffin on Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:31 pm

    Democracy in action eh....

    It's that old adage of a democratic standpoint

    'I may loath your viewpoint, but I will defend to the death your right to express it'

    I just hope the sainted residents of Wootton Bassett, who display such a wonderous level of support for our troops, feel like 'expressing' their point of view on that day!
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    Post by drgndrew on Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:26 pm

    I want comment on the march either way

    Michael W Wright wrote:

    I'll be there. If you fancy it, drop me a line.

    MW

    why bother mate, you are only giving them what they want attention. you see every angry voice that is shouted against this (and other kinds of protests) only adds to the noise of the protest. it brings more attention to it.

    Being a patriotic and emotional subject, It's hard to do, but the best course of action would be to let them march through the town and totally ignore them, treat it as just another day, and go about business as usual.

    You see lets say 1000 turn up to march and another 1000 turns up to protest the march. The media is going to say that it attracted 2000 people which gives it a impression of twice the real effect.

    If there is violence (which is alluded to in your post and I imaging many are thinking will happen) then that is going to bring even more attention to the "cause", the media will lap it up and enjoy the ratings, where as if the march goes on with no violence or other resistance then it would be a fizzle in terms of ratings and the media will give it a mention and it will die over night. violence and clashes will only prolong the media coverage and give the protested the attention the want.

    let them march, let them voice their opinion, and live in satisfaction that you didn't do anything to enhance their message. theres hardly any news in a bunch of people going for a walk. but as soon as someone opposes it it makes for a news story.

    I ask anyone attending this march regardless of the side your on to avoid the temptation to communicate with violence. let them have their five minutes on the soap box, doing otherwise will only provide them with more time on the box.
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    Post by Michael W Wright on Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:39 pm

    I've had that side of the argument put to me by a number of people, and I'm not saying for one minute that you are wrong.

    However, as you righly say this is an emotive subject, and in the end you have to go with what you believe in. They already have their publicity, so whether we like it or not this march has momentum. No I'm not going there looking for violence in any way and if, as many people say, the march turns out to be a red herring or a damp squib then no problem at all.

    What I cannot sit back and tolerate is, if it goes ahead, that these people marched through the streets of our country in a disgusting act of disrespect for our fallen soldiers, and everyone just sat back and did nothing. Its just so characteristic of the Daily Mail culture of this country where everyone sits around and talks about how terrible our culture has become, but then do nothing to step up and do something about it. The "ignore it and it will go away" is presented as a more intelligent and tolerant approach, in reality its just a smokescreen for how weak and cowardly our nation has become.

    People are free to have their own belief system, and if they don't want to get involved then no problem. In my belief system, its important to me that if this march transpires then I'm there, that I stand in the middle of the street, and I stand up for what I believe in. In the end that is all these people are doing, why should they get to do it and I don't? To me its far more than just a publicity stunt, its a challenge to the pride of British people to say we're going to shit on the name of your country and your fallen heroes, and we're going to do in on your own soil - so are you going to do anything about that or are you really as pathetic as we think you are?

    We live in a society that intellectualises and rationalises everything purely to arrive at a point where its always someone else's problem, and its nothing to do with me. I just think sometimes you have to draw a line in the sand and say no, I'm going to pipe up, show up and stand up.
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    Post by Peter Skillen on Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:07 pm

    Ok lads I know this is a subject close to your hearts but this is a self defence forum not a political one. I am locking this thread as of now! peace to all good men.

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