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    Marc1978

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    Passive Fence

    Post by Marc1978 on Mon May 11, 2009 3:09 pm

    In my limited experience and my opinion i think this is quite a good example of someone defending themselves/attacking from a passive fence position,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRKc_AgAniI

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    Al Peasland
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    Re: Passive Fence

    Post by Al Peasland on Mon May 11, 2009 6:24 pm

    humm

    I watched it withou sound so didn't get all of the story - but perhaps that's a good thing

    Not brilliant

    Jay Kay had his hands behind his back

    The photographer had his arms folded - admittedly - in front of himself, which is good but he was doing nothing to control the space between himself and Jay Kay

    However, if head butt is his preferred technique then maybe he likes people to be in his face and up that close - me, I like them at a little bit more distance where possible.

    But, the head-butt was a very good pre-emptive strike in terms of the lack of warning and no real indication in the photographers body language prior to the strike so that was pretty good.

    As I said, I didn't listen to the sound and I wasn't there to see the full story so I can only presume what lead to the whole thing.
    I'm sure there was faults on both sides and for anything to escalate up to one person head butting another, it's a pretty bad state of affairs

    But as a demo of a pre-emptive strike - it was good and bad in places in my opinion


    Anyone else care to share their thoughts?

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    Re: Passive Fence

    Post by Marc1978 on Mon May 11, 2009 8:47 pm

    Many thanks for your reply Al,i did find a much better quality version of the incident,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5lTASGZAMU&feature=related

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    esther

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    Re: Passive Fence

    Post by esther on Tue May 12, 2009 9:04 am

    Hi, if you check out the book review section, ive just finished reading the book and watching the dvd.There is a review.I would highly recommend you contact Al, and buy both, as you get a discount if you have both!! This book answers any questions at all you may have to do with the fence.

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    Re: Passive Fence

    Post by geordiedave on Tue May 12, 2009 7:29 pm

    So who dented the car ? My opinion is the same as Al's in that there was no fence in place which is a major no no. The headbutt had no power as Jay kay was still standing -from what I saw- and didn't look concussed.
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    Re: Passive Fence

    Post by Mick Tully on Wed May 13, 2009 10:13 am

    The clip looked quite lame imho.........better bet would be to check out the fence concepts book and dvd........its not shameless plugging when its the best in its field is it???
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    Al Peasland
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    Re: Passive Fence

    Post by Al Peasland on Wed May 13, 2009 10:19 am

    Laughing

    Cheers Mick - cheque's in the post

    I can understand Jay Kay's frustration, having never been "papped" at that kind of level myself (I know - hard to believe hey) Cool it must be dfficult not to let it get the better of you for a time

    And, no-one has the right to damage your car, even if they are taking photo's of you to put in the paper and give you free publicity.

    And who can say they wouldn't get out of their car to go sort out the culprit - cars are expensive and hard earned - even for Jay Kay.

    Purely from a Fence point of view - it wasn't great, as has already ben said, nor was the head butt. It shows alot of flaws but still, he got the first shot in - rightly or wrongly

    So, what would yo uhave done - if you were Jay Kay???

    Defend you expensive, hard earned, motor-car or drive off - it's just another piece of mettle??? Question
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    Steve friel

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    Re: Passive Fence

    Post by Steve friel on Thu May 14, 2009 9:20 pm

    Write a song about how my flash car got damaged by some fool.Then buy a bigger flasher one of course Ha Ha!!!

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